7.20.2007

Sleep Atkins




Last night, it took Miss Dub ONE HOUR of sad, pathetic, heartbreaking crying to fall asleep. 60 minutes, people. 3,600 seconds. Or in Mom Time, forever.

But I’m realizing that sleep training is a lot like weight loss.

When I was obese, the thought of losing so much weight was daunting. Giving up yummy treats and counting calories did not sound like fun. So I basically convinced myself that it was impossible to lose weight; that I was genetically wired to hold onto weight despite my best efforts. And while there was some truth to that in my case, the real culprit, of course, was that I lacked willpower. Nevertheless, I would try for a few days or a week and stop when I didn’t get dramatic results. I would whine and complain and say it was too hard. Everyone else had it easier, I reasoned. Losing weight just wasn’t as tough for them.

So I fixated on a magical alternative, some other way to lose weight that was easy, fast and painless. Thankfully, I didn’t get caught up in the web of Atkins and South Beach and cabbage soup because I’m so lazy and carb-addicted that even those sounded too intense. But I can see how women bounce from specialized diet to diet with yo-yoing weight in between all because the rudimentary concept of eating less and exercising more is just plain tedious.

Same goes for sleep training. I’d try and try with Miss Dub to get her to sleep, but never once let her truly cry it out after she was an infant. Once her cries began to resemble words – “Mom, why do you hate me?” – it was too much. I’d go a few minutes and cave. Rather than admit my weakness, I told myself crying it out was inhumane. That it worked for other people because their babies weren’t as smart or aware as my child. That Miss Dub was emotionally scarred by the behavior. So I fixated on other ways and other methods, but while those magically promised few tears, they also required a long list of specific behaviors to get results. And my lazy self never could follow all of them so sleeplessness prevailed.

Like weight loss, I eventually reached a breaking point. It eventually dawned on me that millions of people had done this. That while it was hard, it was possible. And if I stuck to it, there was no way I could fail. I just had to see it through.

Well, I’m now down 60 pounds and eating better is a habit so it seems easy, though I’ve definitely laxed in some areas and need to lose another 5 pounds and get toned before I claim victory. And, of course, I’ll always have to be vigilant because the slightest thing can set me off course since I’m an emotional eater.

Miss Dub isn’t close to the finish line, either, but I keep reminding myself that it’s out there. We made it through a whole day of sleep training and she didn’t die, though she did poop her pants. I didn’t cave. And even though I lost sleep, I feel more rested because I feel hope.

Still, it’s terribly hard, but I just keep reminding myself of those first few days of eating better. You’re so hungry that you think it’s inhumane. You’re so cranky that you think it’s impossible. You’re so annoyed that you don’t want to do it. But a few days later, you realize that you’re satisfied with less food and feel better in general. And it dawns on you that it’s not that hard; that you can get results if you stick with it.

So I’m sticking with it.

But it would be nice to know how long this took for all of you. (??)

(‘Cause I’m lazy like that.)

36 comments:

Leslie said...

we're still in the midst of it. miles cried for a good 35 minutes at about 245 this morning. it takes a while. :(

Anonymous said...

How does the old addage go "It takes 21days for form a habit..." (oh well I can't remember) It takes a bit. Consistency is the key. If you read Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child. Dr. Marc talks about how your child will cry less and less each night that you are consistent and then you will have a few good nights and then "BAM" out of no where your child will scream his/her head off after a week or so of sleep training. They are just checking to see if you mean business and you better mean business or you'll find yourself at the beginning again. With my daughter it took 2weeks or so and then we moved on to nap training. I didn't start crying it out with her until she was 6+months (it gets harder the older they are) with my son we started at 14 weeks. Call me a hard 'blank' but it is worth it. He now sleeps like a dream for both naps and night time. You will get there, PROMISE.

P.S. Don't listen to Miss Dub while she is working it out. Get in the shower, turn on your Ipod, go for a walk. You cannot sit there and listen, it will make you insane.

Keep up the good work!

P.P.S. once Miss Dub is sleeping through the night consistently you will find that you will have baby fever ten-fold.

Anonymous said...

we started to cry it out at 5 months, because my little one was wanting to be social and play at her wakings & I didn't want to stay up for 2 hours. So after asking anyone & everyone their experiences. We were in a one bedroom apartment, so she was 5 feet away! I got DH & I some ear plugs & I said I can give her 1 hours, that's it!! Well at the first waking when she cried I handed DH the ear plugs & we both tried to muffle out the sobbing. 59 minutes later I sat up to go get her & she stopped! It was amazing! I sat there waiting for her to start up again, but she didn't. The other amazing thing was the next morning when she woke up I thought for sure she would be upset with me, but no, she was as happy as even (if not more happy than usual.) And equally pleased to see me.(she didn't hate me, i thought.)
The next night was 20 minutes the next was about 2 or 3 minutes & night 4 was this pathetic 1/2 second sob. And by night 5 we were all sleeping through the night! It was DELICIOUS!!
So in the end the advice that DH & I give to others seeking it is that crying it out is hard on mom & dad, but baby doesn't seem to care. And despite how hard it is, it gets easier & is so very worth it in the end.

Anonymous said...

P.S. i want to agree with the previous anonymous. Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child IS A GREAT BOOK. My daughter is now 2 1/2 & I still go to that book for advice. And I am ready to start back at the beginning of the book with my fast approaching due date to #2.

Rachie said...

2 Nights.

Holland cried for 2 hours straight the 1st night. She only cried 45 minutes the 2nd. Ethan cried mayb ea total of 30 minutes both night combined (my easy baby). And the 3rd night? I slept 8 hours straight without any interupptions. Now, that was sweet!

Colleen said...

Didn't work for us. The first night, he cried for 2 hours and 55 minutes. Yeah. After a week of intense guilt and horrible nights, we quit. It just wasn't worth it. He started sleeping through the night on his own at about a year.

Hope you have better luck!

Anonymous said...

Inline, with Ms.Dub's honesty blog, I would like to post an honest comment.

I feel you have all done this to yourself and your kids. Nine months does seem inhumane to me to not have taught your daughter to sleep on her own yet. And a year?

If I were you I would feel gut-wrenchingly bad when I had to hear my child cry-it-out because I'd let my baby go that long without being a "real" mom, teaching her to sleep.

Same with eating, it is something you need to teach your kids too.

Ashby said...
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Ashby said...

.....oh and Mrs. Dub, I think you have done a fabulous job with little Miss! You should be proud of yourself!

Mrs. Dub said...

to be honest, anonymous, teaching a baby to sleep doesn't always mean crying it out. just because i hadn't resorted to that method didn't mean i (or other moms) wasn't actively engaged as a "real" mom teaching other soothing sleeping techniques.

i agree with what you said to a point - i did bring a lot of this on myself, as i've admitted. but if we're being honest, i think there's a way to share your point of view without pointing fingers at others. that's something a "real" mom should have taught you.

Cichelli said...

Doll, I never post on your blog without reading other comments first because I don't want to be redundant. And I am shocked by what people are willing to say when they're behind a computer and an anonymous name. Would they say these things to your face?

As your true friend AND a blog friend, I'll be honest with you.

You are the only one who can decide what is right for you and your family. I used babywise with Jack, my three year old, and was a schedule nazi. Eat, play, sleep, eat, play, sleep... it ruled my life. I let him cry it out, I used ear plugs, I sent Ben in to comfort him so he wouldn't smell milk and want food... he slept through the night at seven weeks. And unlike the previous post, he completely trusts me and know that I will come to him and help him. I didn't neglect my child, I taught him that nighttime was for sleeping. And for my sanity, and to be a good employee, I NEEDED to be sleeping at night. And although Babywise worked for me, it wouldn't work for everyone. And I didn't take 100% of the advice in that book. FLEXIBILITY IS KEY.

I've said this before in a previous post and I'll say it again: they never really sleep through the night. Even when you have them trained, there will be bumps in the road. They will be sick. They will start teething. They will learn a new trick and want to practice all night (like standing, rolling over, etc). You willl travel and they'll be in a strange place. You'll come home from traveling and they'll be home, but it seems new. You'll move them from a crib to a bed. You'll start potty training. They'll have nightmares. Something will interrupt their sleep routine, even after they're "trained."

I've read lots of books because I'm the book reading type and the best advice I have for you is to take all the advise and find some mixture that works best for your individual personality, your daughter's and your family and routine. And what works for daughter #1 won't work for children 2, 3, etc. They're just different.

With baby #2, our boys share a room, so crying it out made it really hard. It took some creativity on our part, but we figured it out. And for the most part, he slept through the night starting at six months.

Here's some brutal honesty about myself: I recently started seeing a therapist (I like to think of her as my paid friend) who essentially is helping give me the tools to balance my life as a working mom. And help me deal with my neurotic guilt of being a bad mom because I work. And the guilt of WANTING to work and not being a stay at home mom in a society and culture where most women do stay at home. Anyway, she has given me phenomenal statistics about what a child needs from parents to be happy and healthy. And from what I can tell, if I am a good mom, you are a GREAT mom and little miss dub will be happy AND healthy.

For your sanity Laura, you need to get her sleeping through the night. But don't let some rude anonymous bitch tell you are doing a bad job because miss dub isn't sleeping right now. You are the ONLY person who can decide what is right for your family, what timing is best for you, and what you feel good about doing.

She WILL sleep through the night. And she will turn out okay if you let her cry it out. And you are a good mom.

Cichelli said...

And sorry I just swore on your blog. In addition to being the book reading type, and the I-let-my-child-cry-it-out type, and the working mom type, I also swear.

Go ahead ladies, judge.

mommie said...

Cichelli . . .
I don't swear.

Thanks so much for doing it for me. I owe you one.

Anonymous said...

I just wanted to add my 2 bits. In all of the kiddie books I've read about crying it out it says to wait until the baby is between 4 and 6 months because at that point they are old enough to self soothe. But I have a bro. and sis. who have done it from way earlier. My point is - do what you feel is best for you. BTW, sounds like you are doing a great job.

Mrs. Dub said...

swear away, cichelli, swear away!

hilari said...

for my boys, it just took a few nights before they realized that i wasn't coming in to save them. i just had to keep reminding myself that they were ok. i do however think that it gets easier with babies #2 and #3. maybe it is because your more tired, or maybe because you learn that they won't hold it against you or die in the process. keep up the hard work - as for the dieting, thanks for the needed motivation.

janaya said...

you know those moments, when you're putting on your make-up or driving alone in your car, and you're having a fake fight with someone? you usually get to say all those nasty things you really WANT to say to someone, but probably won't ever get the chance to say... sometimes you get to vent all those mean phrases out in a fake fight, so you can be civilized and decent when the real conflict ensues. well... me and "anon" just duked it out in the bathroom, and it started out with a little "who the %@#$ do you think you are?" and some "i'll show you inhumane!" ... but my favorite was the part where she said "it's just not fair that everyone is ganging up on me and calling me names!! i was just being honest!!" and i clocked her across the jaw and said "i feel you have done this to yourself, &!^@#!"

so now i can be civilized and just say... mean people suck.

Michelle said...

Everyone here is so clever! I've been laughing my butt off with all these comments towards that anonymous girl! I love it. Not the nasty comment, but how clever and witty and honest everyone else is! Thank you!

And Mrs. Dub, I love reading your blog every day. You're so smart and funny and such a great writer. You truly do inspire me.

Rachie said...

Okay Anonymous...Why don't you enlighten us? How does a "real" mom sleep train her babies?

Ashby said...

First off....loved the fake fight Janaya.

Secondly....sorry I brought up Babywise.

martha corinna said...

I guess I'm not a 'real' mom because I'm on my third baby who is 8 months old and cried from 11:30-3:30 last night. Shame on me for being such a bad mom. I'm not even going to pretend that I have it 'all figured out' b/c that next thing I know I'll turn the corner and life/reality will slap me in the face.

Leisha Mareth said...

Go little Ms. Dub, you can do it! Sleep is a good thing, really! In a few years you'll be yelling at your parents to let you sleep in and skip seminary...get as much of it now as you can! (p.s. you'll spend the rest of your life pursuing it...especially as a mom!)

Laurel said...

Being a mom can be so hard sometimes. Liam is a good sleeper 98% of the time but that other 2% can be so heartbreaking. I've had to learn to stay committed to the task at hand and not go into his room, pick him up and tell him I'm so sorry for making him do something he obviously doesn't want to do...the best is when I ask my husband what he thinks, but really I know what to do I just don't like to hear his screaming and need to know from Tom that I am doing the right thing. During those times I also like to think about Rachel's troubles with Holland and know I can be strong. I know totally pathetic, but it helps.

Josie said...

YEAH! I'm so proud of you!

Kate said...

I love these comments and the fake fighting!! I say, good for you, Mrs. Dub, and you can do it.

I think they say the avg. is 3 nights of crying. My first baby (at 4 months) never took a pacifier, and he cried an hour the first night, 45 minutes the 2nd & 3rd. The 4th night there were a few wimpers, and that was it. And after crying himself to sleep each night, he did not wake up in the middle of the night at all. I didn't make him cry to sleep for naps, but after he got used to going to sleep on his own at night, he went down for naps on his own too.

My 2nd baby sucked on a pacifier, and he was able to go to sleep on his own from the beginning. I put him in bed to let him cry it out one night, and he never cried! I thought it was a little eerie, but I didn't complain.

I think I've been blessed with extra good sleepers, and there is no magical solution... but I also think you are doing the right thing.

Mandee said...

Lame, Anonymous. There is a difference between being honest and being b*tchy.

My guess is she doesn't even have any kids. Or he. Or whatever.

It took 5 nights with our first baby. My 2nd and 3rd were great sleepers. All babies are different. And hopefully your next one will cut you some slack! (And your anonymous commenters, too!)

sara said...

I agree with some of the others; I never read any sleep books but I'm a fan of crying-it-out & did mine at about 2.5 months. It's easier when they're younger & it helps to have reminders from hubs, mommies, & whomever, that they're not going to die in there crying. I think for most it only takes a few nights, as long as you stick with it! Consistency, consistency. Of course it's easier if they're totally healthy to begin with; the little Miss is over her ailments I hope?? You're doing great; the Miss is a doll.

sara said...

P.S. The diet analogy is a great one.

Kate said...

Good luck-- and listen to your own motherly instinct- only you know your child- and although it is great to ask for advice and listen- in the end- you will always do what is best for YOUR child. None of us should be allowed to judge eachother on our parenting/mothering skills...that is a line that never should be crossed- we all have our own ways, philosophies, experiences, limits, etc... We are just here to support eachother in this great endeavor.

Jaime said...

I'm not even going to start on the anonymous comment..you know me, it won't be pretty...Bitch is the nicest word in my vocabulary!

Mrs Dub,I'm sorry you have to listen to Miss Dub cry it out. I had to with Baby B for 5 nights and I kept going in to check on him and put his binky in and stayed in the room just to make sure he was alright. And I only lasted about 45 minutes until I'd go in and put his binky in. By the 6th day I decided that I would give up and he actually slept all night. So don't give up, she'll still be a beautiful, happy and amazing Miss Dub. And the great thing is that she won't remember any of it! Love your skinny butt!

Amen to Aubs!

Layton Mom said...

After months of trying to get #2 to sleep through the night I talked with the pediatrician about it. He suggested that it could be night terrors. After a little more digginng into his sleep patterns he determined that it wasn't and that it was just a phase he was going through. He has learned to put himself to sleep and sleep all night. FINALLY! But it certainly took a lot longer than I wanted it to.

Anonymous said...

i just want to give you a big virtual hug and tell you that i love your candidness about all of this...the sleep training, your weight loss, being an emotional eater--it's all so emotional and hard...you are most dear (how can i say that about someone I don't know??) anyway, it may take some time (especially if Miss Dub is strong-willed, which it sounds like she might be)...but hang in there! She'll learn...they just do. Hugs to you and the little Miss!

liz said...

Well I'm a little late to the party, but wanted to tell you that my first three children were fantastic sleepers, sleeping through the night by about 2 months (some even earlier). I did occasionally let a baby cry it out, but it never took long, and wasn't really "gut wrenching."

Enter baby number four. For some reason, I have spoiled my fourth baby, and she can only fall asleep in my arms, binky in (and she's 18 mos) with her fingers wrapped around one of mine. If she's sick or teething, she usually wakes up once or twice, and we often (gasp!) just bring her to bed with us. I sometimes wish she'd fall asleep on her own, but the one day I let her cry it out, she screamed bloody murder for three full hours (she's 18 mos, remember?) and I just never felt like doing it again.

I guess the point I'd like to make is that all children are different and that it's my prerogative as a mother to handle it my way. Her lack of independence has given me the opportunity to snuggle her, and has forced me to relax for a few minutes in the evening, and I just don't have any guilt about that. This is not making life miserable at our house -- though I'd rethink it if she was waking up often in the middle of the night. In retrospect, I don't think I would've let her do this for so long. The day will come when she'll need to go to sleep on her own. But for now, I kind of like our moments together at bedtime, and I don't think that makes me a bad mom. In fact, I know it doesn't.

The Queen said...

Wah. I hate when they have to cry it out! It's so worth the end result though!

Carina said...

Miss Dub's face in that photo makes me sad.

Lindsey from The R House said...

i'm sad that someone would say such a rude thing as essentially, "you're a bad mom" to one of my nearest and dearest.

lame.

unforgivable.

it is my experiece that babies come to earth with their own personalities. just because you TEACH something to another spirit doesn't always mean that they LEARN it. how many times did i TEACH the most amazing lesson on the 6 times tables to my third graders (answer=600x6) and yet they didn't LEARN it??? some of them caught on really quickly. some of them it took a little longer and little more TLC and a LOT more time.

perhaps lil' dub is having a "writers' block kind of thing" with going to sleep when you deside she should because she is busy composing her next symphony, organizing her thoughts for a future newberry award or simply going through the 6 times tables.