I firmly believe that every baby comes with one big challenge, at the least. Some don’t like to eat, some love to cry. And some, like my dear Miss Dub, don’t like to sleep.
(Though thankfully that seems to be her only hurdle thus far, though I’m pretty sure being sassy and talking during class are inevitable.)
It’s not that surprising – I’d heard talk of sleep-deprived new mothers. I mean, the mere thought you’d wake up and do something in the middle of the night made me tired so I expected some initial fatigue. And I read all the books on how to turn a confused newborn into a sleeping genius so I felt forewarned. (And by all the books, I mean ALL the books.)
Babywise had me convinced that my child would be sleeping through the night by 12 weeks, if not sooner. Since 12 weeks sounded unreasonably long, I really focused on the sooner part. When I mentioned it to friends, some happily reported that their babies had starting sleeping through the night at 7 weeks. They were my heroes. Others told me theirs didn’t sleep for months; some still weren’t at one or two. Being the judgmental person I am, I instantly assumed the latter group was full of softy moms who jumped at the slightest cry. I didn’t think they were bad moms, just unwilling to make their own nocturnal destiny for the sake of some extra cuddles.
(Now, this isn’t an argument about Babywise and its respective virtues and vices. Save it for another Tuesday! Because I think that book has saved many a mom and offers some great nursing advice, though it is odd that Mr. Ezzo is not a doctor and never graduated from college. But if it helps one mom, that’s good enough for me!)
Well, all books aside – and I really did find “The Baby Whisperer” to be the best for me and the Miss – books are worthless. Good advice, good intentions, but a ton of pressure, work and promises that can’t always be fulfilled. (And I will kick Dr. Sears, Dr. Ferber and any other Dr. Sleepyhead in the crotch if they tell me I failed somehow.)
When I feel best as a mother, I’m just being me. I’m not obsessed with the clock. I’m not obsessed with Miss Dub. I’m just living my life and caring for Miss Dub while I do. Even if that means forsaking an occasional nap. Even if that means I let her stay up late when she’s clearly not ready to sleep, no matter what time it is. Even if that means I’m winging it, not scheduling it.
And even though I still don’t get any sleep, at least I’m not obsessed with sleep. Every night waking doesn’t signal failure. Every nap isn’t a test.
But, boy would I like to buy some Zzzz’s. (Illegal drugs and questionable Nigerian money-wiring included.)
Miss Dub is going on eight months and has slept through the night for one miraculous month only, several months ago. Naps are mostly dreamy – she goes down awake and wakes up giggly an hour or two later. Bedtime is mostly painless – she goes down awake BUT this is where it gets gnarly. (Pronounced ga-narly, according to Webster’s.)
Usually she wakes up once or twice for a nibble. Now, this is a girl who has been eating three hearty meals of baby food since five months. Who nurses quite frequently though her disinterest keeps her from really guzzling. And who has happily mastered a sippy cup of H20 in the last few weeks. But she’s still hungry enough for a full feed. And then it’s off to lala land, unless she wakes up and decides to play or babble or have another McMilky.
And while that’s not bad, I’m not very good at going to bed before 11 p.m. And I pretty much cannot nap, despite Mr. Dub’s continued threats. Since Miss Dub goes down around 7 or 8 p.m. she’s got a massive head start on me so she’s perky around 6 a.m., while I’m still lusting for some snoozing.
But some nights are even worse.
Last night, Miss Dub decided to scream from 1 to 3 a.m. Not my favorite way to spend those hours, by the way. I generally prefer to sleep and/or sleep at that time of night. So I was fairly frustrated – the words “shut up” may or may not have graced my mind, though I managed to mutter, “It’s OK, sweetie,” instead. Finally, Mr. Dub lured her to the crib with a favorite singing bunny and we headed back to bed. Until 6:30 a.m.
The point is – I have no idea what my point is. All I know is I’m sorry for judging mothers with children, who, heaven forbid, came to Earth with their own personalities. I mean, I’ve NEVER been someone who sleeps through the night. I always wake up several times a night, and I like it! It gives me some quiet thinking time. The only difference is I know how to put myself back to sleep quickly, while Miss Dub needs to cry or babble for a half hour before she’s tuckered out again. Yet, I expect her to sleep like a log for 10 hours.
I expect someone who’s never met her to tell me what’s wrong.
I expect me to know exactly what to do when I’ve never done this before.
I expect her to be perfect, but only if it’s my idea of perfect.
But I need to take all of my expectations and throw them out a window (preferably a very high one with a view). I need to let Miss Dub be Miss Dub. And I need to chill out.
Also, I need to sleep.
Any suggestions?
6.15.2007
Tales from the Crib
Posted by Mrs. Dub at 10:53 AM
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28 comments:
Hmmmz...perhaps u could feed the baby some whisky
out like a light
only jokes :)
As a 20 year old with zero kids, i have exactly the same number of solutions. Zero.
But good luck with it all. I'm sure your mother's intuition will kick in and you'll figure something out.
I'm afraid I don't have any advice, but I can certainly sympathize. Elijah didn't sleep through the night until he was a year old. Despite my compassionate reservations, I tried letting him "cry it out." I tried getting up and NOT feeding him, just patting him and murmuring soothing sounds. I tried catering to his every whim, despite my mother-in-law's shoving Dr. Spock in my face and telling me he was spoiled. Most of all, I DID obsess about sleep. But His Stubbornness won the fight and slept through the night when he was good and ready. I think that's really all you can do is be the best mom you can be and hope for the best. Good luck!
my daughter didn't sleep through the night until she was one but we had a good system down. i didn't breastfeed so she would take a bottle and go right back to sleep. i never could take babywise or baby whisperer seriously because they were too strict and i just needed to do what i was most comfortable with and it worked, eventually. she is 18 months now and sleeps through the night, but that first year does take a toll. my body got so used to getting up once at night at about 10 months, it was no problem to get up with her for a second to make a bottle and i could fall right back to sleep. i guess the only advice i have is to keep doing what you are doing. your baby is going to adjust in her own time and you will too. it's the natural process and i promise, as hard as it is now, it will get easier the longer you have her. take a deep breath! hope that helps.
I am glad you posted this. I have been struggling with sleep issues as well. I have read a lot of books, but they require a lot of time and committment and I cannot follow an exact plan every night (I do try though). I say follow your instincts. If you think you should feed her in the middle of night even if she shouldn't be hungry...do it. Back in the day, mothers didn't have books, only instinct and I think it worked.
I refuse to give advice and believe me, any previous judgements on other mothers flew out the window once I actually had children.
Sleeping issues can be hard. My oldest son came straight from heaven wanting to stay up all night long. In desperation I tried the "cry it out" method and he would fall asleep standing up, fingers tightly grasping the crib in defiance "I will not break!"
My daughter came and, no joke, slept through the night from 7 weeks on...I take no credit, she just came that way. She likes sleep. Starting at 2 she would tell ME she needed a nap??? (still does)
There must be something in the air this week, I've been thinking along these same lines last night and today. Just living my life and caring for my family and letting go of the pressure to mother perfectly (as if there is such a thing?)
Wow, reading this post brings back memories. I was lucky to have a few weeks here and there of sleeping through the night, but my son has had a lot of ear infections and bronchiolitis to boot that may have hindered him. There are nights that he cries enough to warrant me getting up, and nights that he sleeps right through without a whimper. I sort of, as a first-time mother, learned to play it by ear. If he screams I usually get up, if he is whimpering he'll go back to sleep. He's 13 months now and he is just doing what he needs to do. And luckily I'm enjoying some full nights of sleep in the process. Everything usually fixes itself in its own time. I did buy The Baby Whisperer book and started to get him more on a schedule (getting a bath, bottle, book, bed) around bedtime, but I have learned to be less strict with it when we both need it. Best of luck!
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Love the blog. Can't believe you're a mommy. Can't believe I still work at the DMN. Can't believe I'm still in Utah. Can't believe I haven't talked to you in ages.
Keep in touch. You know where to find me.
Sleeping through the night is a MYTH. My oldest started "sleeping through the night" at 6 weeks. From 8 am until 6 pm, out like a light.
Oh, except for when he was teething. Or when he had a virus. Or when he wet the bed and woke himself up. Or after surgery. Or when we traveled and he was in a new place OR when we came back and was in the familiar place. Or when he learned a new trick and had to practice all night. Or when he just didn't want to. Or even now, when he is 3 and has a nightmare or wets the bed or gets sick.
Seriously, sleeping through the night is an ideal that never truly happens.
I read a LOT of books and the trick I learned, especially with number two, is to BE FLEXIBLE.
I hate to even give "advice" because it's so different for every baby, but what worked for us was letting the boys cry it out. I made Ben get up with them in the middle of the night so they couldn't smell the milk and think they were hungry (you know that feeling that you're a meal, not a mother?).
Our best trick was going in every hour, saying "it's nighttime. go to sleep," going back out, and waiting it out for another hour. Seriously painful for 3-7 nights (buy earplugs or sleep on a different level) but then they learned the habit and started sleeping through the night.
Except when they are teething, or sick, or wet the bed, or... you get the idea.
It's a myth I tell you. A myth.
I am the mom who let my kids "cry it out". I did it when they were 5 months old and it took 2 nights of crying. After that we were all sleeping soundly. I did the "cry it out" method because they were already sleeping through the night on their own every once and awhile. So, I figured they were ready.
Until we moved to an apartment and they began teething. They were 7/8 months then. So I began getting up once a night with each of them. I fed them a bottle and put them back to bed until 7 AM.
When we moved into our house they began sleeping through the night again. They were 11 months old at that time. I am not sure what happened. Was it quieter? Did I not hear them cry? Were they more comfortable? I have no idea. It sounds like most babies mellow out after a year old.
I think most of the time, it is a guessing game. Like everyone else said...follow your instincts.
Hard. Hard. And Hard. I say (what worked for us) was: let them cry. And when mothers say I tried that and it didn't work, I have to wonder, how long they cried and for how many nights 'cause it takes some dedication, my friends. Once Henry hit 10 lbs, I knew he didn't need to eat in the night...so I cut out the middle of the night feeding, and after two nights, he stopped waking up. However, he's my only one and I think to some degree, I just got lucky to get an unusually good sleeper. I am by no means pretending to be any kind of expert handing out parenting advice--only sharing suggestions that worked for us, and that is what you asked for, right?
But I do think that children (babies) learn very quickly what they can and can't get away with...and if you had a guaranteed snack every time you made a peep in the night, wouldn't you want to wake up every few hours? Me too. I think you have to withhold those nighttime feedings (if a good night's sleep is really what you want -- and it has to be what you WANT,) and then let Miss Dub cry it out. It's painful. It's sad. It's loud and you can't believe their capacity for crying...But it will only take a few nights. And let me tell you, girl, you won't believe how much better you'll feel about life when your household sleeps through the night again. I think Miss Dub will be happier too--and might even nap better. I found that sleep fostered more sleep and the better Henry napped during the day, the better he slept at night and vice versa.
Again, you have to do what works for you...but if it's uninterrupted sleep that you want, I think you have to be willing to rough out those few nights of "training." Miss Dub seems like a pretty sharp little cookie, I'll bet she'll catch on quick. Sorry to have been such a wind bag.
I’m with the other moms; I did cry it out with my first. He was 4 months and he’d found his thumb. Figuring that he could now self soothe, even if it was just a little bit, we took the plunge. Assisted by Ferber, it took 3 days of successively less crying to get him to go to sleep on his own. From then on out he usually slept through the night, at least 6 hours—except for when he was sick, or had a nightmare, just like the other mom said. Heehee.
My biggest thing was that I was working out of the house, there was no way for me to be functional and still show up at the office in the morning. All I needed was 5-6 hours together. Thankfully, I got it.
Now, with my 10 week old, I hate to say we’re there, but he is giving me a stretch starting around 11 or midnight for 6-7 hours. OH MY HEAVENS! AWESOME! Then again, that will probably be over next week when he has a growth spurt or something.
So I don’t know if it’s because I have an iron will and can ignore my 5 month old crying, or if I was just sent sleepers (which, let’s be honest, is probably the case.) I have friends who go through a lot more. I’m sure that I will probably get one who doesn’t sleep someday and I shall do my time like everyone else.
Still, Other Half and I are big believers in “sleep begets sleep.” I guess you could say we’re following our instincts. Nap-times, although somewhat fluid in start time and length, are sacrosanct. When they are old enough, bedtime is pretty rigid as well. They need to sleep and WE NEED for them to sleep. But that’s what’s working for us! As long as your family is doing what is working, it doesn’t really matter.
she'll be leaving for college soon... you can wait it out and just sleep then, right? ;)
i'll tell you about one of my friends (since i have no idea... all i know is the two days we watched our friends kids while they were out of town, i was a walking zombie during the day... so i'm a little nervous for my own, to say the least)... anyway, they had their first, and did the usual leave the door open so they can hear him, jump at every cry, try to be tough but caring approach... then decided to swaddle him up like a burrito baby and they swear by the technique, 'cause he's a great sleeper now. however, i assume you've probably tried that and if not, it's probably too late to start; however, then when their first was 8 months old, they got a little surprise. 9 months later #2 came along. with a little more "experience" and an overwhelming need to sleep, they started with the burrito approach, stuck a pacifier in his mouth, put him in a portable crib in the livingroom, closed their door nice and tight and pulled out the earplugs. as far as they know, he slept great. :) ... but the point is, that they slept great. haha. so, i present two suggestions for you:
1. have another one.
2. earplugs.
haha... THIS is what you get from a 28 year old mother of none. :)
We used 2 books- Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child, and Babywise. We took the schedule from Babywise (eat, play, sleep) and some good ideas from Healthy-Happy (never wake a sleeping baby) and it's worked for us with our last 2 kids.
With my first baby- I went through everything you are going through. He was 2 before we let him cry it out. He has a hard time sleeping to this day.
It's hard to listen to the crying- especially when it's your first. With your 2nd, you realize they'll live. And with the 3rd, they have to be bleeding before you think about picking them up. Ha-ha.
My 2 pieces of advice... go to Target while your husband stays home to help her cry it out. Or, let him get up with her on the weekends.
Good luck!
My of kids all started sleeping through the night pretty early; everyone's babies are different. I never read any sleep books; they just did it. (I let them cry themselves to sleep at 2 or 3 months old, but it only took about 15 minutes for couple nights and then they'd stay asleep all night.) But now between the 4 of them, two sleep like logs and the other two... not so much. The lighter sleepers still fall out of bed on occasion, wake up in the night for drinks, etc. but the older they get, the more they can take care of their own 3am needs and it really does get easier. Hang in there & don't worry.
First things first, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
Secondly, I know all babies are different, but I still think you can sleep-train them. I agree with emily & azucar & mandee. I do think you need to let them cry it out... and I know "sleep begets sleep"... and I know a strict-ish schedule really works. I love the Healthy Sleep Habits book.
I ALSO agree with everyone who has said to follow your instincts. You know what you can handle.
Although, I have a friend who has a 2.5-yr-old who still wakes up a few times EVERY night.. and I think the parents are at fault because they have enabled this behavior.
I'm not sure if you wanted to just vent or if you really wanted lots of "advice." In any case, hope you get lots of sleep on your birthday night. :)
Children & sleep.. the age old question. I will say that I have had so many people comment on my child's sleep & how "lucky" I am... perhaps they are right, but I know that I put forth some effort & found a routine that worked for us. So even though I smile & nod, in my head I am thinking: if you only knew that this child was sleep trained!
I have to agree with the others who mentioned Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child. (It can be purchased at Target, you know) It is the book of all books, I think I could get into trouble with my love for the book & the time I spend browsing its worn down pages. (I sure don't do the same with my scriptures.) I love the way the book is broken down into ages & issues, so you can just skip to what you need for that moment!
But I will say that since I only have one child it could be a fluke that EVERYTHING we have tried & learned from that book has worked. So I may feel differently when I get to child #2... (but part of me doubts that, because everyone else I know who is in love with that book has had equal good luck.
P.S. you don't know me, I just stalk your blog for daily insight!
this is what i have to say (and i feel rather strongly about it): babies are babies for such a short amount of time. what is the rush to make them so independent and grown up? eventually they all sleep through the night. you just have to hang in there. i don't let my kids cry it out. frankly, i think it is just plain mean. but this is turning a little hot for my friday tastes and should maybe be saved for a tuesday.
you know miss dub better than anyone. you know what she needs. so go with it and do your thang.
sorry, that last comment was me, not leslie!
(I own the Healthy Sleep Habits book as well and would recommend it.)
I understand where Stephanie is coming from, but I do have to say that not all children eventually sleep through the night. I took that approach with my non-sleeper, thinking he would only be small for such a short time...but I do wish now I had been more structured instead of thinking he would outgrow it...because he's almost 6 and STILL gets up almost every night and still has sleep issues (i.e. can't soothe himself back to sleep without one of us assuring him it will all be okay.) I think it made him more needy.
So, while I agree with the compassion and sentiment, I do think it can set some children up for more sleep problems later on. I don't think they all outgrow it.
thankfully, steph and i agree on this very topic, since she commented as moi. in fact, she is very patiently sleeping in the same bed with me this week while we're without our hubbies and at our mom's house. and guess who keeps joining us for a few minutes in the bed every so often . . . my 10 month old miles. who loves milk more than anything and i can't say no. he's my baby and i'm the one who pays the price for my own inability to hear my baby scream.
so sue me.
I'm looking into an all night diner. If she doesn't want to sleep at night the least she could do is bring in a little spare cash. Nothing like flipp'n flap jacks and pouring cups of mud to tucker one out -- at least that's what my grand pappy used to say.
Though I do believe in a schedule, I do like your point about enjoying Miss Dubbers and he be Miss Dubbers. (But can you trust a gargoyle?)
I don't really have any advice 'cause like you said kids are different...but I can offer sympathy. It is rough, really rough to not get enough sleep. My 2nd almost 4 months old and the hardest thing about having #2 is that I can't nap when he is napping...so there goes that great advice!!
Is there any way I can just copy and paste that ENTIRE post and put it in my own blog, and then replace all the "Miss Dub's" with my youngest's name?!? Seriously, you took the words right out of my mouth....and brain for that matter. My little one is 7.5 months, and this waking up at night (3-4 times) is getting harder and harder with every sleep-deprived day that follows.
And I will openly admit, my first was a Babywise Baby. We had her crying-it-out at 6 7 and 8 weeks and that child slept through the night, except on occasional "bad nights". When #2 came along I threw all those Babywise theories right out the window. I felt much more comfortable doing what I deem "Ashby-wise". I followed my own mommy-instincts and felt much more loving and relaxed and HAPPY.
However....I still yearn for those same 10 LONG hours of sleep at night. I get mad when my darling husband NEVER hears the baby at night. And there are even days when I have to tell myself that only having two children is a great idea.
I wish I had advice, but I don't. All I know is that books are for the "perfect situation child". Keep on doing what you know best because you mean the world to Miss Dub and that is what is most important!
thanks to everyone! (if any of you came back to read this.)
your advice means a lot to me!
unfortunately, i'm "that" mom who can let her baby CRY it out, but draws the line at SCREAM it out. and screaming is what miss dub does these days if you don't respond.
but i rededicated myself to more routine and added a late night snack and ... she slept through the night last night! so i think miss dub really does need to be herself. i just need to make sure she has everything she needs to do just that.
but each baby is different, as are moms. so whatever works for you is right! minus the whisky. well ...
(p.s. so glad you found me ashby!)
The real thanks goes to Mrs. R! I'm so glad she had your link! Here's my blog: thehatchfam.blogspot.com, and my email: ashbyhatch@yahoo.com. We really need to catch up!!!
PS - your little girl is so dang cute!
I really like Babywise, but I think it can be distilled down to about one paragraph:
"Feed baby. Keep baby awake for a little while after feeding. Put baby in bed while still awake. Gradually increase time you let baby cry/scream before going in. Keep at least a semblance of a schedule." Even Babywise allows for flexibility so don't be put off by its strict recommendations.
Yes, babies may start s.t.t.n. by themselves without "sleep training", but all sleep is not created equal. Max and Sam are Babywise babies and we can go in their room at night, flip on the light, and dance a jig without them waking up. (And sometimes we do.) We don't have to keep the house silent and they don't need ideal sleep conditions to get a full nights rest.
And although I agree you should enjoy your babies, I enjoy them a lot more when I'm not sleep deprived and onery. (But then I have a low low tolerance for sleep deprivation.)
Just my two cents!
Ahhh, what Cichelli said was wise.
And having btdt with Babywise--honestly, it's not worth it. . .
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